"Received a request on face book for a Christmas card. We would have liked to send one but since Christmas is the celebration of the Birth of the Savior of the World, Jesus Christ, who is the only begotten Son of God the Father and you are now anti-christ, as an atheist, we were wondering why you would want a Christmas Card. We don't believe Christmas as just an excuse to get cards and presents or just another Holiday. Any card we would sent should ruffle your feathers because it would reference the reason for the season - Jesus Christ the Son of God.
We have read your definition as to why you went atheist and realized you don't have an idea as to why we are here on earth. WE accepted to come here and go through the tests and trials of life to prove ourselves worthy to come back and live with our Father in Heaven. He promised us all he has if we would do that. He gave laws and commandments we had to follow if we wanted blessings in this life and after. If we don't keep those commandments he won't be compelled to bless us. While we were in Canada we were sad when you felt everyone was to do everything your - way which wasn't the Lords way. You were the one that moved. He was always there for you but it requires things like obedience to the principles of the Gospel. The Lord Hates lying and you were good at it. He says Adultery is 2nd only to Murder in serious and you are living in a direct opposite direction than the Lord and our Heavenly Father would have you and you expect blessings from him?
WE spent a lot of time, effort, money and prayers in your behalf of trying to help you get your kids. Now you are atheist we are so happy the Lord knew best because they are being better cared for (according to their Bishop and Stake Presidents) and so the Lord didn't allow you go gain custody They say your mother is doing a great job in seeing they are being raised righteously instead of living with you who is living in a relation offensive to God. I know these leaders are men of God and don't lie.
I can see why you are atheist. It is easier to try to justify the way you are living and lying your way through life. I feel sad that unless you repent you will have to stand before Christ and try to talk your way out of it which won't work - and you will be consigned to the Telestial kingdom where you can't visit your children or your live in at all and you will have only yourself to blame and no one else. You know what you are doing and know it is Contrary to the Teachings of God. Just be glad you don't live in the days of Moses because then you would have been physically stoned to death already. Now you are just dead spiritually to the Lord. Only you can change that.
I wanted you to know that we know with all our hearts, might, minds and strength that God is our Heavenly Father and he loves all of his children even when they reject Him. Jesus Christ is the son of God and was willing to die that we could have a chance to repent and accept His atoning sacrifice made for those who repent so he could be your redeemer. Heavenly Father loved you so much he allowed His beloved son to go through all he did for you and you are rejecting that great love.
You may never want to hear of us again because of the truths I have written here. That is sad but The spirit has been nagging for months to let you know these truths and your seeking Christmas cards as an Atheist gave me an extra nudge."
If someone chooses to believe in a God that is their choice but to send this type of email, saying I am lucky I don't live in the time of Moses because I would be stoned? My ex husband who almost killed me, left me for another woman and I should be stoned? How does that make sense? My kids are better off with a known child abuser because she attends church and is a good liar because she goes to church? How does that make sense? Just because I live with my fiance? This email is beyond confusing. Here is my reply:
"If you have read why I am an atheist (my blog) then you would have seen the horrific abuse in the name of a so called God that my mother put me and her previous step kids through. Yet you can still say they are in a better place? With a woman that told a rape victim it was her fault, with a woman who almost killed her step son, with a woman who made a gilr live in a barn and only bath once a week? With a woman who made a boy eat thrown up dog food? I could go on and on and so could the step kids. That is a better place for my kids to be because she goes to church and commits these horendous acts hinden behind closed doors? The church didn't know the horrors she was doing on that farm no more then they do now because she is a good liar. But because she goes to a church it is a better place for them? You are hipocrates if that is what you believe.
My becoming an athiest has nothing to do with my childrens placement. It has to do with the church being a lie. The church teaches Joshep Smith had one wife. Yet irrefutable facts prove that he not only married many women, including children under 15, but also married women that were already married to other men who were alive. This man you call a prophet broke his own rules for his religion. And that is just one fact. I am an athiest because the church was built on lies and that science proves there is no God. Sorry but you need to get your facts straight.
And telling me you are glad that God choose to keep them in that home only because you view I am living in sin yet you are ok with them living with a woman who is severaly abusive is beyond sad because then you are breaking your own Gods rules. Another reason I left the church is how the church treats Gays. If you want education on your church watch a movie called Prop 8 the Mormon Proposition. They broke the law when they tried to force through a law in California banning Gays from legally marrying. They used the tithing of the church to try and force it through. They lost and are now under investigation for it. Since it is illegal for churches to get involved in politics in that way since the law is seperation between church and State. I am no idiot to follow blindedly behind a false prophet who was not only a cheater on his wife but also a pedofile.
You said I may never want to hear from you agian. If you want an intelligent discussion on the mormon religion I am game. But don't you DARE tell me that my kids are better of with an abuser simply because she goes to church. Open you eyes. Just because someone goes to church does not mean they are rightchois as your church says. And just because a bishop says they are fine does not mean they are. When the horrors on the farm were going on my mother was the leading person to go to for Primary teaching and also was the leading person for home schooling. She was greatly respected, yet she was commiting these horrors. If you condon that then I pitty you because that means you condon child abuse as long as that person goes to church."
My becoming an athiest has nothing to do with my childrens placement. It has to do with the church being a lie. The church teaches Joshep Smith had one wife. Yet irrefutable facts prove that he not only married many women, including children under 15, but also married women that were already married to other men who were alive. This man you call a prophet broke his own rules for his religion. And that is just one fact. I am an athiest because the church was built on lies and that science proves there is no God. Sorry but you need to get your facts straight.
And telling me you are glad that God choose to keep them in that home only because you view I am living in sin yet you are ok with them living with a woman who is severaly abusive is beyond sad because then you are breaking your own Gods rules. Another reason I left the church is how the church treats Gays. If you want education on your church watch a movie called Prop 8 the Mormon Proposition. They broke the law when they tried to force through a law in California banning Gays from legally marrying. They used the tithing of the church to try and force it through. They lost and are now under investigation for it. Since it is illegal for churches to get involved in politics in that way since the law is seperation between church and State. I am no idiot to follow blindedly behind a false prophet who was not only a cheater on his wife but also a pedofile.
You said I may never want to hear from you agian. If you want an intelligent discussion on the mormon religion I am game. But don't you DARE tell me that my kids are better of with an abuser simply because she goes to church. Open you eyes. Just because someone goes to church does not mean they are rightchois as your church says. And just because a bishop says they are fine does not mean they are. When the horrors on the farm were going on my mother was the leading person to go to for Primary teaching and also was the leading person for home schooling. She was greatly respected, yet she was commiting these horrors. If you condon that then I pitty you because that means you condon child abuse as long as that person goes to church."
As to the money they speak of it was gas they paid for, and the church reimbursed them, to drive me to the city that was 3 hours away so I could attend court. I thanked them every time for their assistance. Sadly this is how someone tries to force their opinion of a God and religion on someone during the Holiday season. Choosing to believe lies and support an abuser simply because I live with my fiance and we are not married and I am still, sadly and because of lack of funds, legally married to my ex abuser. So I am evil simply because they disagree with my life style and because I am an athiest? I would hate to see what would have happened if I was a gay person. No wonder they are abused so much in my ex religion. Sad. Truly sad. Saying they teach Gods and Christs laws and yet spew so much hate and are so quick to put false blame on someone, reguardless of facts, simplely because that person does not believe as they think they should. From what I read about Christ isn;t that the opposite of love and acceptance?
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Jesus to me is forgiving, accepting and has love for everyone, not hatred and calls people crap and spew lies because they arn't living the way that they believe. If I was the other person, I would pray for you, but the way that you live is upto you and God. Its people like them, that make so many people go against God because the pretray him as unforgiving, hateful, and only accept those who live by his way. My faith is sure you need to live like a christian should, but when sin happens you ask for forgiveness. It has to be you to ask for it. But like I said earlier, if you want to live with your boyfriend, then so be it. It is with you and God and if you feel that he is ok with it, then go for it.
ReplyDeleteOh and one more thing, going to church isn't the only thing that makes you good.
ReplyDeleteThank you for speaking out on this. Religious cover for all kinds of abuse is the history of humankind. You children don't deserve to be forced to live with an abusive woman, even if she claims that God is on her side.
ReplyDeleteWhoever wrote that to you was certainly out of line. None of us are perfect not even in the church. It saddens me greatly that you have experienced so much abuse. However, we differ in that in the church I've found Christ like love and acceptance. The church leaders encourage us to reach out with Christ like love to others. I'm sorry that email did not provide that for you. Moving along as I read I felt a lot as if I know your mother to some degree. Why? She is so similar to my own. I can relate on the lies. Still to this day she lies on me...vile disgusting lies....things she is guilty of. The good thing is that anyone who knows me knows it's all lies. I've managed also to point things out to people that indicate what she is not what she claims to be. I haven't gotten pAst this point in your writing. I'm hoping that your life gets better. I admire your strength and fortitude!
ReplyDeleteWhoever wrote that to you was certainly out of line. None of us are perfect not even in the church. It saddens me greatly that you have experienced so much abuse. However, we differ in that in the church I've found Christ like love and acceptance. The church leaders encourage us to reach out with Christ like love to others. I'm sorry that email did not provide that for you. Moving along as I read I felt a lot as if I know your mother to some degree. Why? She is so similar to my own. I can relate on the lies. Still to this day she lies on me...vile disgusting lies....things she is guilty of. The good thing is that anyone who knows me knows it's all lies. I've managed also to point things out to people that indicate what she is not what she claims to be. I haven't gotten pAst this point in your writing. I'm hoping that your life gets better. I admire your strength and fortitude!
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